Shaggy's Panzerjager I-FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!
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My idea
Hey Shaggy ,
My idea (I had a plan for mine when I got it ) was to have the crew playing cards (you know the set from Masterbox ? ) near the wall of a barn used for cover for the Panzerjaeger . Not a full barn but a splintered timber barn wall , maybe chipped faded red or blue paint , maybe with a stack of firewood stacked next to it & some woodchips , a splitting log & axe , some unidentified farm machinery & an old greasy oil drum with staining all the way to the ground !
You could use that idea if you like , I do not mind . I have some photos which may give you some stimulus if you are interested !
Jenny
My idea (I had a plan for mine when I got it ) was to have the crew playing cards (you know the set from Masterbox ? ) near the wall of a barn used for cover for the Panzerjaeger . Not a full barn but a splintered timber barn wall , maybe chipped faded red or blue paint , maybe with a stack of firewood stacked next to it & some woodchips , a splitting log & axe , some unidentified farm machinery & an old greasy oil drum with staining all the way to the ground !
You could use that idea if you like , I do not mind . I have some photos which may give you some stimulus if you are interested !
Jenny
Re: Shaggy's Panzerjager I-FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob Muckley wrote:Eirk-
Yes, that's usually the way with interiors!
I was thinking about panzer grey with green overspray, as was evident on some of these vehicles. I'm still not sure, though, whitewash might look nice on it, too. What do you think?
Shaggy
Hi Bob
Well I'd say go for the pz grey with green overspray, yes green over german greay might ruin everything, but "who dares, wins", and besides I think we've seen enough whitewash.
Jsut my 50 cents
\Erik
Re: Shaggy's Panzerjager I-FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!
i have to agree with jenny and erik - have a try with the green overspray - no pain no gain! - some small green blotches could look really cool and what if you mess up the paintjob? overspray it with plain grey!
i'd give it a try!
i'd give it a try!
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Kreighshoer wrote:
my answer was to be interpreted as a joke and that you may place as many vehicles of any kind in this dio as your entry - the short programme - is the panzerjäger and the dio is just the candy - the freestyle!
Laura-
There seems to be that problem, we never get each other's jokes!
Maybe they just get lost in translation...
Now I have another little problem, they ammo boxes in the back are interfering with the gun mount, which attachs to the back wall. Another fine instruction sheet from DML!
Alright, grey and green it is, I even found an old set of dry transfers for the Panzerjager I. I'll keep you posted!
Shaggy
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A nice example:
http://tanksandthings.niceboard.org/finished-model-gallery-f10/panzer-iii-l-1-48-t285.htm
I´ll also make a grey with green overspays. Panzer grey should be not very dark (near to neutral grey!) with a touch of blue to match visually with green. The costrast with mud in the lower part of the tank could be explosive!! !!
http://tanksandthings.niceboard.org/finished-model-gallery-f10/panzer-iii-l-1-48-t285.htm
I´ll also make a grey with green overspays. Panzer grey should be not very dark (near to neutral grey!) with a touch of blue to match visually with green. The costrast with mud in the lower part of the tank could be explosive!! !!
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Re: Shaggy's Panzerjager I-FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the look I'm going for, the panzer grey won't be too dark, I want it to look a little dusty and faded.
BTW, don't set the rear ammo boxes until you can at least test fit the gun mount!!! DML doesn't give you any point of reference to set them, but have little marks all over the hull for the lift hooks!
See, it does pay off to have someone else build a kit first!
Now I'm having a devil of at time removing them to relocate them.
Just not my week...
Time to get a Scooby Snak!
Shaggy
BTW, don't set the rear ammo boxes until you can at least test fit the gun mount!!! DML doesn't give you any point of reference to set them, but have little marks all over the hull for the lift hooks!
See, it does pay off to have someone else build a kit first!
Now I'm having a devil of at time removing them to relocate them.
Just not my week...
Time to get a Scooby Snak!
Shaggy
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Servus Bob,
we had such ambushes in a few of DML kits. In every second you must find the trap. - Good, that you found it here. I will note that, because it is sure, that I will build this car. DML should take care over their plans better.
Not your week? Peanuts, the week ist almost over! And a new and better week will come. Wish you the best.
we had such ambushes in a few of DML kits. In every second you must find the trap. - Good, that you found it here. I will note that, because it is sure, that I will build this car. DML should take care over their plans better.
Not your week? Peanuts, the week ist almost over! And a new and better week will come. Wish you the best.
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Relocated ammo boxes
Shaggy ,
Remember I was chatting to you about how the ammo boxes on sprue K come with the Bison Kit I have , well if you wreck the kit bits relocating them I will send you the spares from my kit . Pretty much all that I use from sprue K is the floor , drive train , exhaust pieces , rear bulkhead machine pistol , Batteries & dash instruments .
Any of the other bits from the sprue you can have if you need it .
Let me know , okay ?
Jenny
Remember I was chatting to you about how the ammo boxes on sprue K come with the Bison Kit I have , well if you wreck the kit bits relocating them I will send you the spares from my kit . Pretty much all that I use from sprue K is the floor , drive train , exhaust pieces , rear bulkhead machine pistol , Batteries & dash instruments .
Any of the other bits from the sprue you can have if you need it .
Let me know , okay ?
Jenny
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Jenny Croft wrote:Shaggy ,
Remember I was chatting to you about how the ammo boxes on sprue K come with the Bison Kit I have , well if you wreck the kit bits relocating them I will send you the spares from my kit . Pretty much all that I use from sprue K is the floor , drive train , exhaust pieces , rear bulkhead machine pistol , Batteries & dash instruments .
Any of the other bits from the sprue you can have if you need it .
Let me know , okay ?
Jenny
Jenny,
You are the BEST!
I think I am okay, though. I got most of the ammo boxes off. One side I managed to pull right off, after softening the glue with paint thinner. On the second one, though, the bottom pan (not the whole box) is stuck tight to the floor, and since the upper hull is in place, I can't reach down with anything to pry it up!
I take a pic later to show you. I don't care if I ruin the bottom plate of the box, I just want to get it off the floor so i can relocate the dang boxes! If anyone has a sugestion....
Shaggy (who is still having a bad week even though it's Saturday!)
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... your bad week still continues .... sorry...
Look at my review of the new Nuts and Bolt in my post about Pzjg I here, in Little and Lethal.
Of course, you can freely choose to paint an grey with oversprayed green ... but there are not real references about it ... I´m also desolated .... Dragon´s kit seem dedicated to DAK vehicles as a lot of of 2nd version PzJg I (70 tanks) were sent to Afrika ...
Look at my review of the new Nuts and Bolt in my post about Pzjg I here, in Little and Lethal.
Of course, you can freely choose to paint an grey with oversprayed green ... but there are not real references about it ... I´m also desolated .... Dragon´s kit seem dedicated to DAK vehicles as a lot of of 2nd version PzJg I (70 tanks) were sent to Afrika ...
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Jose Luis Lopez wrote:... your bad week still continues .... sorry...
Look at my review of the new Nuts and Bolt in my post about Pzjg I here, in Little and Lethal.
Of course, you can freely choose to paint an grey with oversprayed green ... but there are not real references about it ... I´m also desolated .... Dragon´s kit seem dedicated to DAK vehicles as a lot of of 2nd version PzJg I (70 tanks) were sent to Afrika ...
Jose-
Yes, I've noticed all the pictures I like of the Panzerjager I are all with the smaller shield, there was one shot of the later shield in whitewash, that's all I've found.
Maybe I'll change course and do a DAK vehicle. I've never built a DAK, and this would be interesting because I could leave the inside of the gunshield and gun panzer grey. I'll have to think about this.
BTW, nice review on the book. I wish I had it, it probably could have saved me some headaches.
Shaggy
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Bob Muckley wrote:
BTW, nice review on the book. I wish I had it, it probably could have saved me some headaches.
Shaggy
I saw yesterday in a newsletter mail of "Berliner Zinnfiguren" Nuts´n Bolts, that it is available in Germany too. I buy it and scan the book for my "electrical library". Let´s see, perhaps it is sendable.
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Re: Shaggy's Panzerjager I-FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaggy, a DAK vehicle is always a nice option.
And do not worry about making a too weathered vehicle, some pictures show nearly NEW vehicles (no weathering, no chipping .. nothing!!) captured by british forces at the second battle at El Alamein. Of couse, you can make also a heavy weathered tank.
Good luck!
And do not worry about making a too weathered vehicle, some pictures show nearly NEW vehicles (no weathering, no chipping .. nothing!!) captured by british forces at the second battle at El Alamein. Of couse, you can make also a heavy weathered tank.
Good luck!
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I think I've got it now.
I just found a picture of a late panzerjager I in dark grey, supposedly at the Sea of Azov in 1942. I think I will just do the grey/green and have it loading onto a barge, maybe to cross the Don River.
I have the gun, shield, and mount painted, I will take some pictures over the weekend. Hopefully I can still fit a driver in there!
Shaggy
I have the gun, shield, and mount painted, I will take some pictures over the weekend. Hopefully I can still fit a driver in there!
Shaggy
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Hey everyone-
I finally got the interior straightened out and the gun and shield painted. There is also a picture or two of the problem I had with the ammo boxes. Also, the gun mount is now glued in place, but the gun and shield are simply resting there for the picture. Also missing is the MP40 mounted to the gun mount, you can't glue it in until after you attach the main gun. The fit is really that tight, according to surviving examples.
After evenmore thinking, this is going to be overall panzer grey, and in a diorama with a KV-1. I'll take a few pics of a mock up of the scene later.
As always, comments and/or criticisms are welcome!
Shaggy
I finally got the interior straightened out and the gun and shield painted. There is also a picture or two of the problem I had with the ammo boxes. Also, the gun mount is now glued in place, but the gun and shield are simply resting there for the picture. Also missing is the MP40 mounted to the gun mount, you can't glue it in until after you attach the main gun. The fit is really that tight, according to surviving examples.
After evenmore thinking, this is going to be overall panzer grey, and in a diorama with a KV-1. I'll take a few pics of a mock up of the scene later.
As always, comments and/or criticisms are welcome!
Shaggy
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COOL SHAGGY
Hey Shaggy ,
This is really coming along so well , I would prefer to see a smaller vehicle IMHO as you want this superb vehicle to be the star , Maybe a BA 20 armoured car ? Just a thought .
Well I reckon this is looking really cool .
Jenny
This is really coming along so well , I would prefer to see a smaller vehicle IMHO as you want this superb vehicle to be the star , Maybe a BA 20 armoured car ? Just a thought .
Well I reckon this is looking really cool .
Jenny
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Jenny Croft wrote:Hey Shaggy ,
This is really coming along so well , I would prefer to see a smaller vehicle IMHO as you want this superb vehicle to be the star , Maybe a BA 20 armoured car ? Just a thought .
Well I reckon this is looking really cool .
Jenny
Jenny-
I know what you mean about showcasing the Panzerjager, but wait until you see what I have in mind!
I kind of want the point to be how miniscule this guy is compared to what the Russians were fielding even from the beginning.
So, I'll set up a mock up and take some pictures, let me know what you think. There's something I've never done, showing off a mock up online!
Shaggy
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love your progress bob! the interior looks sweet!
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very nice
Hi Bob,
Excellent attention to detail.
I like the interior colour .
Good effort so far.
Excellent attention to detail.
I like the interior colour .
Good effort so far.
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Re: Shaggy's Panzerjager I-FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you very much for posting your progress. I´m learning a lot of from your kit!!
Once the gun and the shields are installed ... driver´s seat and transmission will be nearly invisible!! It´s a pitty that all that detail can not be show because your painting work is impressive ...
If you add one figure in the combat chamber ...
Anyway ... it´s a good work ... and now, funniest part is close to start!!
Once the gun and the shields are installed ... driver´s seat and transmission will be nearly invisible!! It´s a pitty that all that detail can not be show because your painting work is impressive ...
If you add one figure in the combat chamber ...
Anyway ... it´s a good work ... and now, funniest part is close to start!!
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Yeah man, the interior looks very, very well. Every detail was made very fine. We love your work!
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Panzerjager 1
Hi Shaggy
It is looking good my man , really nice interior , I can follow your line of thinking with the KV ,I might even be tempted to go with a KV 2 , It would look very much the "David and Goliath" dio .looking forward to seeing it all come together
regards
Brian
It is looking good my man , really nice interior , I can follow your line of thinking with the KV ,I might even be tempted to go with a KV 2 , It would look very much the "David and Goliath" dio .looking forward to seeing it all come together
regards
Brian
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Highlander wrote:Hi Shaggy
It is looking good my man , really nice interior , I can follow your line of thinking with the KV ,I might even be tempted to go with a KV 2 , It would look very much the "David and Goliath" dio .looking forward to seeing it all come together
regards
Brian
Thanks eveyone for the kind words. Brian, that was sort of what I had in mind, the David and Goliath thing. I will post a picture of the dio mock up soon, plus some other work I've done to her.
Thanks everyone for the support.
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Hey Bob
Shaggy, that is looking like a nice little build, will be suitably tiny against a KV (would fit on its engine deck!) Having seen Jennys Flakpanzer built, I have a new found love of the tightly packed detail of these little panzers. I reckon you will end up doing a DAK one when all the aftermarket comes out for them.
Richie
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Richie wrote:Having seen Jennys Flakpanzer built, I have a new found love of the tightly packed detail of these little panzers.
Richie
Richie-
I know what you mean, this is the first panzer I based vehicle I've ever built( but definately NOT my last!), and there is alot of detail to these little guys! And I probably would not have started this if not for this site and group build. I probably will build another of these once I get my hands on the earlier, smaller shield, which I think looks way more sexy.
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