Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
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Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
following a masterplan and with the sdkfz 10/5 almost finished, it's time to start the next build soon!
this little baby it will be:
this sexy paint scheme will go on the panzerjäger:
(discussion purpose only!)
the kit isn't that bad at all ... only the tracks are really bad but can look good with enough care taken!
this little baby it will be:
this sexy paint scheme will go on the panzerjäger:
(discussion purpose only!)
the kit isn't that bad at all ... only the tracks are really bad but can look good with enough care taken!
Kreighshoer- Platoon Commander
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Geez, Laura! You're like a modelling machine! Termamodeller!
Looking forward to following your build - popcorn and beer at the ready
Rudi
Looking forward to following your build - popcorn and beer at the ready
Rudi
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Tarok wrote:Geez, Laura! You're like a modelling machine! Termamodeller!
Looking forward to following your build - popcorn and beer at the ready
Rudi
Yes Rudi , one thing is sure "She'll be back"
Jenny
Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Jenny Croft wrote:Yes Rudi , one thing is sure "She'll be back"
ROFL - me the T-X of modelling
simple reason is that i tackle my XMM entry from behind and with some group builds closing soon i want everything besides the figgies finished before i start with my max! first from july 1st will be the diobase to see how i will layout the scenery and then the max, groundwork and figgies! i have a megalomaniac plan ( ) in the pipe!
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Wow! While I'm gluing the tracks on two little WW1 tanks you have the time to actually build 2 complete models, paint one and then start a third Is Michael Schumacher one of your relative
Another very interesting subject btw. I'll come back in a few hours to see the finished build mrs T-X
Another very interesting subject btw. I'll come back in a few hours to see the finished build mrs T-X
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Indeed a very nice kit. The new Zvezda parts are not bad but they don't match the quality of the original Italeri kit. New tracks and tools are mandatory. The rest can be made by you since you have the talent. You will have another cheerleader here! I normally keep notes on my instruction sheets (I was happy to find out recently that I am not alone). If you want to know what I found, ask away. Same for the Sd.KFz. 10 kit although Terry did a better job than I planned on mine.
Regards,
Regards,
Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
unfortunately i'm not related to MS richard! if i was i would have enough money to own world's biggest stash!
saúl ... i don't want to shock you but i will use the kit tracks! i know they are what the dog leaves behind but they work with a gentle coat of mud!
i also do my notes in my instructions! sometimes more than would be good! i have built this one longer ago ... it was my third model or so - i can't remember exactly any more!
saúl ... i don't want to shock you but i will use the kit tracks! i know they are what the dog leaves behind but they work with a gentle coat of mud!
i also do my notes in my instructions! sometimes more than would be good! i have built this one longer ago ... it was my third model or so - i can't remember exactly any more!
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
hmmmmmmmmmmmm ... i'm currently researching the early panzerjäger 1 produced by alkett (5 sided shield) and ask myself if it is enough to cut the shield and support of this kit or if there were more differences? both the zvezda and the DML panzerjäger are resembling skoda production of the later type!
saúl? do you know something more?
saúl? do you know something more?
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
yes,
Yes I do! The side shields are a touch longer. I am sure you could replace the complete gun shield with styrene sheet by using the kit piece for the front three sides. For the sides, you will have to find your own template... I wonder where you can get such a template;?:
By the way, have you downloaded the Aber and Eduard detail set instructions for this kit? It is another way I find what to improve. Here is a photo of the Aber set that includes the upper gun shield and a brass piece.
Regards,
Yes I do! The side shields are a touch longer. I am sure you could replace the complete gun shield with styrene sheet by using the kit piece for the front three sides. For the sides, you will have to find your own template... I wonder where you can get such a template;?:
By the way, have you downloaded the Aber and Eduard detail set instructions for this kit? It is another way I find what to improve. Here is a photo of the Aber set that includes the upper gun shield and a brass piece.
Regards,
Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
i cannibalized my old panzerjäger to see if i am able to convert the late shield to an early one ... at the moment i reached a point where i need some advice! (already! ) to cut back or not to cut back! that is the question!
after having studied the aber fret and instructions thoroughly i took a deep breath, an old #11 and cut my way through the the side walls, then trimmed the cutaway parts, reglued them, puttied and sanded (only once so far!)
it already starts to look like an early five side shield:
BUT ...
i am afraid that i have to trim this back to where i have added the line into the photo:
do you agree with me or should i trim more? (please take into consideration that the angle of the photo is a "bit" off and does not show the alignment of the shield with the corner that should align with the shield properly!)
after having studied the aber fret and instructions thoroughly i took a deep breath, an old #11 and cut my way through the the side walls, then trimmed the cutaway parts, reglued them, puttied and sanded (only once so far!)
it already starts to look like an early five side shield:
BUT ...
i am afraid that i have to trim this back to where i have added the line into the photo:
do you agree with me or should i trim more? (please take into consideration that the angle of the photo is a "bit" off and does not show the alignment of the shield with the corner that should align with the shield properly!)
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Personally, I think the side pieces need to be replaced.
Regards,
Regards,
Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Hi Laura, congratulations for starting another interesting project.
Concerning the shield I have to agree with Saul; it's better if you cut the whole side panel and do it in one piece. Not only it's easier than gluing a section to sand and trim it later but it result in a stronger assembly too.
Now if you feel really adventurous you can do the whole shield from styrene and correct the scale thickness at the same time.
Take care,
Ruben
Concerning the shield I have to agree with Saul; it's better if you cut the whole side panel and do it in one piece. Not only it's easier than gluing a section to sand and trim it later but it result in a stronger assembly too.
Now if you feel really adventurous you can do the whole shield from styrene and correct the scale thickness at the same time.
Take care,
Ruben
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Yeah Laura , I think it would be better if you use Plastimicard to make it & it will be a real show stopper
Jenny
Jenny
Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
well ... did i ever mention that i am stubborn? i used the mr gunze deluxe glue and that melts the plastic so the bond is extreme!
i trimmed back the side panels, gave them another putty session and sanded again (a third session will follow!), then i sanded the edges thinner and cut away those thingies on the shield and replaced them with copper wire (boy that was some heavy duty drilling! ) ... now i actually can start the panzerjäger!
comparing with a photo my shield comes close to the real deal ... close enough for me! i is happy!
i trimmed back the side panels, gave them another putty session and sanded again (a third session will follow!), then i sanded the edges thinner and cut away those thingies on the shield and replaced them with copper wire (boy that was some heavy duty drilling! ) ... now i actually can start the panzerjäger!
comparing with a photo my shield comes close to the real deal ... close enough for me! i is happy!
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Looks very good!! Being stuborn has its rewards.
Ruben
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
i put the shield aside after priming to see where i still have to putty and sand it. this was the opportunity to do the dullest work on every tank - the running gear!
fully workable of course!
the towing hook ... not bad but not good enough:
after modifying with wire and brass chain:
fully workable of course!
the towing hook ... not bad but not good enough:
after modifying with wire and brass chain:
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
another intersting vehicle in the making
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Hey Laura,
Impressive work on the gunshield, and the chains on the towing hook, like you're eye for detail, and I envy you're building speed
Cheers Erik
Impressive work on the gunshield, and the chains on the towing hook, like you're eye for detail, and I envy you're building speed
Cheers Erik
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Clean work and Faaast
What brand is that tiny chain you used on the towing hook?
What brand is that tiny chain you used on the towing hook?
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
thanks guys
that's a H0 gauge brass chain from a model railroad shop! have a look at a model railroad shop in your area and ask for one ... they are cheap and perfect substitutes!
the rest of the build is sheer routine:
but i ask myself ... the interior ... white with pale green floor or grey with pale green floor?
Richard Marchand wrote:What brand is that tiny chain you used on the towing hook?
that's a H0 gauge brass chain from a model railroad shop! have a look at a model railroad shop in your area and ask for one ... they are cheap and perfect substitutes!
the rest of the build is sheer routine:
but i ask myself ... the interior ... white with pale green floor or grey with pale green floor?
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Nice progress Laura. The kit don't seem too bad. Have you thought leaving one or two armored visor open? this would help seeing a (very) little of the interior.
Sorry, can't help you with the inside colour
Sorry, can't help you with the inside colour
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
all hatches will be closed richard! as for the interior i will go for both colors since they would have surely overpainted the white in the factory but not have removed the white paint prior! i will try to paint the interior with the grey chipped away at some spots showing the original white color! (chipping? i? wonders may happen some time! )
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Re: Zvezda Panzerjäger I 4,7cm Pak (t) (Sf)
Well Laura , If I knew earlier that you were building this I would have given you the ammo stowage from my Dragon Bison I kit ! I have the Dragon Panzerjaeger as well but the sprue with the ammo stowage is duplicated in the Bison set too
Jenny
Jenny
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