JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

I want to see if anyone is confident enough to pull this conversion off ?



I found it while looking for reference for my Marder II build . It is a field conversion of a Panzer II (not a marder II) with a 5cm Pak & unpainted side armour . Whoever takes up the challenge , I have pictures of the interior , Ammo stowage boxes on the back , & the front armour plate .

Sooooo Is anyone game to accept the challenge ?

Jenny

Jenny Croft wrote:Sooooo Is anyone game to accept the challenge ?

richie?

Kreighshoer wrote:

richie?

Yes Laura , what would you like ? If I had the time & talent I would consider it !

I am thinking more along the lines of maybe Luiz or Rick .

Richie

PS Laura , I am volunteering you for the next Jenny Challenge !

Well if there was a conversion kit , I would make it !

Hmmmmm A Jenny Challenge for Laura & she has to make it ! Hmmmmmm

Jenny

Jenny Croft wrote:Hmmmmm A Jenny Challenge for Laura & she has to make it ! Hmmmmmm

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Nice images, where did you dig these up at? Sweet.
Panzer

Panzer wrote:Nice images, where did you dig these up at? Sweet.
Panzer

They come from the Bunderarchev website Chris . I will send you the set if you want to build this beasty . Then Chris we would all be humbled by your build ! You could be the first person ever to make a model of this in 1/35th scale EVER !!!!

Since the vehicle has not got a name I call it a Pander ( half Panzer half Marder )

Jenny

Jenny, that is called an "5cm PaK 38 L/60 auf Fahrgestell Panzerkampfwagen II (Sf)"
It would require the mating of a PaK 38 (Dragon #6444 would be good) and a panzer IIc A, B or C chassis with interiors. (Again Dragon's would fit perfectly.) All that topped with a scratch built armoured superstructure, gun mount and ammo boxes. Doesn't sound too complicated, like doing the interior of my Italeri 234/4.

Darn! How I'd love to do it!

Ruben

Nice rare subject Jenny, well we voodoo boys can do one each (right Ruben????) just send the photos so we can have a better idea of the spell ....I mean work needed to make this into a voodoo-fahrgestell II......

Really a great challenge, Jenny. I'll post your challenge in Panzernet forum. Maybe some modeller faces up it.

Well here are the rest of the pictures I found ! I think "Pander" suits it better than what you said Ruben ! Plus you are good friends with the person who thought up the name !





Note the measurements (these may help if scaled down ) on the armoured plate . Also note the holes in the Guns armour plates & the darker (primer red) where the hinge flap for the lower plate are removed .



Note the carriage axle from the original gun is still a part of the mount .


Note the 5cm ammo boxes ( just released from Griffon ) on the floor & in the ammo stowage box on the back . It is most definately a Pz II not a reworked Marder as you can see by the tool stowage on the fender . Therefore the interior bits from the original PZ II should be light sand in colour .

Jenny Croft wrote: I think "Pander" suits it better than what you said Ruben ! Plus you are good friends with the person who thought up the name !

I have to concede that point, "Pander" is better than the other name.

I wish the ones who thought up the name were my friends. The name was taken from the "Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two" by Peter Cahmberlain and Hilary Doyle. In page 41 there are two photos of it.

I'm seriously thinking about doing it but that will depend on how much time tha Bison I takes me so maybe...

Ruben

So can we cal this T.D. a Pander II, LOL!
Nice images.
Pander! Oops I mean Panzer! LOL!

I will check "stock" at the homestead tonight to see if I can magae what is needed. I am quite sure I have the gun and the Panzer 2 chassis- plus I just completed 2 Panzer 2's and have a pretty good stock of spares. The shild from a Marder 2 may be able to be rworked for those components- like the welded pieces on the sides like "splash guards".

Let me mull this one over- it does not look too complicated (as most builds did not that ended up kicking my A$$)-

It really is a beauty of a conversion project- not too over the top but very unusual.

James

so that means that you take the challenge?

shall i add you to the list with this vehicle?

Is anyone actually building this variant?

We have not got a taker as yet who has , so if you want to take on the Jenny challenge that would be great !

Jenny

There is an Alan PzII Ausf C in the stash, as well as a Pak 38 or two. I’ll have to get a Dragon PzII for the interior and Griffon’s Pak 38 ammo boxes, but.....

If I can get some photos of the rear bulkhead on the PzII and some interior shots then I’ll accept this challenge.

Well they are all the photos I could find , I guess that is part of the challenge . That will be cool as it is a distinctive looking vehicle .

I am sure anyone on forum will help if there is a question with anything .

Jenny

Thanks Jenny

The photos that are needed of the rear bulkhead and interior will be of a stock PzII Ausf C. As this vehicle was based on the PzII Ausf C, I don’t see there being any difference.

The true challenge is getting the bare armour plating the correct colour and all those different blues that the welds would have....

Well I will get Laura to add you to our build ! She will contact you by PM .

Jenny

Hi

I stumpled upon this picture. Isn't this the same type of vehicle?



\Erik

holmerz wrote:Hi

I stumpled upon this picture. Isn't this the same type of vehicle?



\Erik

Yep that's the beastie alright. Now the question is, has it been painted or not. If so, what color.
It looks to me like it has been painted. So that gives two choices of finish.

It also looks like there have been some horizontal stiffners added to the field mod spaced armor beside the gun.

Just saw this one over at ML and thought you may like it: 50mm Pak 38 on Pz II

Quite a fine build I must say.

Fabio did a fantastic job on that vehicle! (ML)

I especially like the weld seams...so realistic!

Regards
Noel